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WPS 竟然比 Excel 快?

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  •   liantian · Jan 5, 2022 · 20345 views
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    看 /t/826087 这个帖子有感,突然想测试下 wps 处理 excel 的性能,遂 Google 搜索 xls benchmark ,然后搜索到了这么一个。

    benchmark 来源:

    https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/what-quick-benchmarks-to-run-on-a-server-with-128-threads-lose-access-to-it-in-a-few-hours.2593997/

    下载地址:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tVTAdP6WczJvlEAJNGhZXX87UJXH6vAV/view

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    我的电脑比较弱,i5-8250U

    正版 excel (随机附送 Home 版):146 秒

    正版 WPS 2019 无云(企业购买):13 秒

    这个 11 倍的差距有点超乎认知....有没有大佬分析下什么原理?

    w

    Supplement 1  ·  Jan 5, 2022

    其实我只是想单纯的讨论下为啥会有这么大差距的背后的技术原因

    作为一个python开发,很多惊讶点啊:

    1. 本以为wps和excel的差距会使py2和py2的差距,没想到是CPython和PyPy那种差距,是PHP7相对PHP5的那种差距.

    2. 竟然是wps领先。

    3. 还不是简单的WPS多线程,EXCEL单线程这样。

    当然好奇这背后的原因。按照经验,一个涉及这么多算法的C++工程,显然不是优化一点代码可以改善的。

    137 replies    2022-03-10 15:35:11 +08:00
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    yingba
        101
    yingba  
       Jan 6, 2022 via Android
    @liantian 可以看一下 wps 的内存增量,有惊喜
    All2B9S
        102
    All2B9S  
       Jan 6, 2022
    用 numbers 打开这个文档,风扇已经在咆哮了,而且一直显示“正在计算”
    All2B9S
        103
    All2B9S  
       Jan 6, 2022
    还有就是在 numbers 里点击“Benchmark”没有反应 ,不知道是怎么回事
    tyzrj766
        104
    tyzrj766  
       Jan 6, 2022
    i5-8259U ,点下鼠标到打开是 10s ,最新版的 WPS
    benchmark 那个按钮好像点不了,估计是没有什么 VBA ,不支持运行?点击详情后要加钱换企业版才能用
    encro
        105
    encro  
       Jan 6, 2022
    WPS 缺陷也是明显的:
    1 ,有时候排版不正确,没有正确处理溢出问题,经常 word 打开 2 页,WPS 打开 1 页;
    2 ,字体没有时,自动找的替代字体非常随意,经常是简体换繁体,楷体换草体;
    3 ,经常更新下,一看就是加了一个广告位。
    sudoy
        106
    sudoy  
       Jan 6, 2022 via iPhone   ❤️ 2
    最近 wps 广告这么多,是因为年底冲业绩?
    zxcslove
        107
    zxcslove  
       Jan 6, 2022   ❤️ 1
    还是农村包围城市的老剧情啦。
    微软的东西好多都和“快”字没啥关系,只是 Excel 的强大很多都和普通人无关罢了,WPS 确实有它的优势。
    Eagleyes
        108
    Eagleyes  
       Jan 6, 2022
    亲测,office365 最新版。打开用时 14-16s 。似乎并非不可接受。

    系统版本 Win10 21H2 16G+SSD 。CPU i7 3770. 3.2GHz 够古老吗?

    楼主的慢是否考虑笔记本没插电降频? RAM 不足?不是 SSD 问题?

    其实楼上大家已经说了,自己用用,看看,WPS“免费”还轻量化。

    但是跟人对接尤其是对格式有要求的,office 不解释。

    WPS 感觉就是把 office 绝大多数人常用的 5%-10%的功能提取出来,甚至打包自动更简洁,类似于美图秀秀之于 PS
    chinaqzxh
        109
    chinaqzxh  
       Jan 6, 2022
    实测 WPS 更好用 开会员更爽
    Dockerfile
        110
    Dockerfile  
       Jan 6, 2022
    @Eagleyes 不是打开用时。。是跑分 点击 benchmark
    ff521
        111
    ff521  
       Jan 6, 2022
    免费的才是最贵的,所以比较时最好请都用收费版
    ColinZeb
        112
    ColinZeb  
       Jan 6, 2022
    R7 5800H /Office365 /28.66s
    ShareDuck
        113
    ShareDuck  
       Jan 6, 2022
    @wangkun025 我们企业,用的就是 WPS ,九万多人,你总不能说我们不是真正的企业吧。不过我在自己的电脑上使用的是 Office ,因为界面美观一点。
    xz410236056
        114
    xz410236056  
       Jan 6, 2022
    微软已经在布局 powerBI 了。。
    vopsoft
        115
    vopsoft  
       Jan 6, 2022
    excel 2016 默认带 dde 检测 打开文件慢 可以修改注册表解决( excel 2016 64 位测试过 ,其他版本导入前 注意备份)

    Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

    [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.12\shell\Open]

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.12\shell\Open]
    @="@%CommonProgramFiles%\\Microsoft Shared\\Office16\\oregres.dll,-3"

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.12\shell\Open\command]
    @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Office\\Root\\Office16\\EXCEL.EXE\" /e \"%1\""
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    00,00,00,00


    [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.CSV\shell\Open]

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.CSV\shell\Open]
    @="@%CommonProgramFiles%\\Microsoft Shared\\Office16\\oregres.dll,-3"

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.CSV\shell\Open\command]
    @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Office\\Root\\Office16\\EXCEL.EXE\" /e \"%1\""
    "command"=hex(7):7a,00,6e,00,3d,00,42,00,56,00,35,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,\
    34,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,4d,00,4b,00,4b,00,53,00,6b,00,45,00,58,00,43,\
    00,45,00,4c,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,3e,00,5d,00,2d,00,7a,00,35,00,\
    68,00,77,00,24,00,6c,00,5b,00,38,00,51,00,65,00,5a,00,5a,00,52,00,34,00,5f,\
    00,58,00,3d,00,24,00,20,00,20,00,2f,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,00,31,00,22,00,\
    00,00,00,00


    [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.8\shell\Open]

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.8\shell\Open]
    @="@%CommonProgramFiles%\\Microsoft Shared\\Office16\\oregres.dll,-3"

    [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Excel.Sheet.8\shell\Open\command]
    @="\"C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Office\\Root\\Office16\\EXCEL.EXE\" /e \"%1\""
    "command"=hex(7):7a,00,6e,00,3d,00,42,00,56,00,35,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,\
    34,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,21,00,4d,00,4b,00,4b,00,53,00,6b,00,45,00,58,00,43,\
    00,45,00,4c,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,3e,00,5d,00,2d,00,7a,00,35,00,\
    68,00,77,00,24,00,6c,00,5b,00,38,00,51,00,65,00,5a,00,5a,00,52,00,34,00,5f,\
    00,58,00,3d,00,24,00,20,00,20,00,2f,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,00,31,00,22,00,\
    00,00,00,00
    uni
        116
    uni  
       Jan 6, 2022
    我对 wps 的印象还是一堆广告和弹窗,就跟其他的国产玩意一样,“脏”
    我更喜欢清爽的界面,不知道现在怎么样了
    beijiaoff
        117
    beijiaoff  
       Jan 6, 2022
    @vopsoft 请问 dde 检测的 dde 是什么意思
    hsqujy
        118
    hsqujy  
       Jan 6, 2022
    1 、兼容:与大部分人一致
    2 、稳定:关键时刻别掉链子

    兼容来说 WPS 差一些
    稳定来说,PPT 遇到过第一个、第二个可以 F5 全屏,第三个开始不行了,这就是关键时刻,遇到一次一辈子不用
    cassidyhere
        119
    cassidyhere  
       Jan 6, 2022
    xls 是二进制不谈,xlsx 其实是一个压缩文件,解压后 sheet 在 xl\worksheets 目录下,一个 sheet 对应一个 xml ,xml 除了描述数据还有布局、样式等。要想解析快,可以 1.解析 xml 比别人快; 2.舍弃非核心功能的解析。
    SlipStupig
        120
    SlipStupig  
       Jan 6, 2022
    我在 16 年的时候骂过 WPS ( https://v2ex.com/t/275450 ), 目前 mac 版本还行而且我也付费了,不知道目前 windows 有没有改善
    vopsoft
        121
    vopsoft  
       Jan 6, 2022
    Myprajna
        122
    Myprajna  
       Jan 6, 2022
    计算机等级考试网上,有一个 WPS 官方教育版,没广告。
    qqg1530
        123
    qqg1530  
       Jan 6, 2022 via Android
    wps 专业性比不过 office ,单纯处理简单文档还是绰绰有余
    wangkun025
        124
    wangkun025  
       Jan 6, 2022
    @ShareDuck 是我绝对了。顺便问下,你们是国企?
    muxueqz
        125
    muxueqz  
       Jan 6, 2022
    @xlsepiphone 以前出过 WPS Mail ,现在好像停止开发了,Outlook/Exchange 这块的坑也很大,不是一下子就能攻克的吧
    wegbjwjm
        126
    wegbjwjm  
       Jan 7, 2022 via iPhone
    Wps 每次想支持它,它就奔溃给我看
    RainCats
        127
    RainCats  
       Jan 7, 2022
    @dufu1991 跟别人频繁对接的应该两样都要 [受虐滑稽]
    RainCats
        128
    RainCats  
       Jan 7, 2022
    @MsHan 用 wps 电脑都卡?那 office 应该会更卡,有时间测试一下?
    iilxy
        129
    iilxy  
       Jan 7, 2022
    office 编辑保存的文档经常会出错,用 office 打不开的情况大家都没遇到过吗?同样的文件用 wps 打开就没问题。
    lucacham
        130
    lucacham  
       Jan 13, 2022
    WPS+超级会员 差不多用了一年了,搭配同步功能和他的 WPS 网盘,对我自己来说非常好用,有好几次文档编辑失误找回前几个版本的历史文档救命。
    我就是不喜欢 MS OFFICE ,摊手,onedrive 也很难用,反正我用 Google drive
    maichaide
        131
    maichaide  
       Jan 15, 2022
    wps2019 专业增强版(带 VBA )跑了下 11.66 秒,WPS 表格在处理大量数据时,无论是文件打开速度还是公式运算速度都要比 EXCEL 快很多,一开始没想到,对于搞大量数据分析来说,WPS 表格比 EXCEL 好用很多。
    maichaide
        132
    maichaide  
       Jan 15, 2022
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    maichaide
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       Jan 15, 2022
    ![wps 测试](//i.imgur.com/TZRb1N4.png)
    atrexl
        135
    atrexl  
       Jan 17, 2022
    @hinataharuki 已经支持了啊
    maichaide
        136
    maichaide  
       Jan 22, 2022
    @Eagleyes 已经排除硬件配置和功能精简,也并非美图秀秀之于 PS 这样的类比
    cco
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    cco  
       Mar 10, 2022
    mac15 款,打开一个带图片 130M 的 word ,敲一个字需要 7 秒。WPS 三秒左右。换 win 虚拟机 wps 很流畅,多年 office 365 订阅用户,我 69 买了一年的 wps 会员。文档同步还可以,但也有小缺陷。目前有点动摇,是否还需要续费 office365 的必要。
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